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<blockquote data-quote="Litehiker" data-source="post: 1120043" data-attributes="member: 54178"><p>This the last reply I will make in this thread as it seems that some have come to the conclusion of "Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind."</p><p></p><p><u>Disclaimer</u>: Yes, I dial for setting a zero and my zero stop. That dialing is obviously necessary and everyone who understands scope basics does it.</p><p></p><p>Quoting Todd Hodnett from the article "Cause & Effect", Sniper magazine, 2014.</p><p>"Holding is always more accurate than dialing. A friend of mine with a doctorate in optics agrees with me on this."</p><p></p><p>He says that <em>some</em> scopes will track well all the time and some will track well only within the area of one mil of dialing and go off the reservation in a 10 mil box.</p><p></p><p>And then there is a test done on Precision Rifle Blog. It shows that MOST scopes do not track consistently accurately. Only <strong>FOUR </strong>scopes tracked accurately through their full range, namely:</p><p>Hensoldt ZF 3.5 - 26 X 56</p><p>Kahles K 6 - 24 X56</p><p>U.S. Optics ER25 5 - 25 X58</p><p>Valdala IOR RECON Tatical 4 - 28 X50</p><p></p><p>This was from 18 scopes tested, and 11 brands. All top scopes including a few from Nightforce. So I was wrong too in my choice of "good turret scopes", despite the exceptional precision of manufacture of the Nightforce BEAST turrets. Even the highly respected Schmidt & Bender had some error. All testing was done on Horus C.A.T.S. precision targets made for this purpose.</p><p></p><p>This thread was started with a question. I have given my answer and the reasons for it. Note that I am ONLY referring to large "Christmas tree" reticles like the H59, the TREMOR type and Bushnell's Eliminator III with its small dots, and <em>not</em> to smaller "ballistic" reticles. AND I'm referring to holding on or between mil hash marks, not on old style Mil Dot reticles and not a guesstimate in open, unreticled viewing space.</p><p> **BTW, ballistic reticles are set for a certain altitude pressure, cartridge & bullet and temperature. Beyond 600 - 800 meters they will begin lying to you.</p><p></p><p>"In reticle we trust" is my motto. Others can trust dialing for everything and I wish them luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Litehiker, post: 1120043, member: 54178"] This the last reply I will make in this thread as it seems that some have come to the conclusion of "Don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind." [U]Disclaimer[/U]: Yes, I dial for setting a zero and my zero stop. That dialing is obviously necessary and everyone who understands scope basics does it. Quoting Todd Hodnett from the article "Cause & Effect", Sniper magazine, 2014. "Holding is always more accurate than dialing. A friend of mine with a doctorate in optics agrees with me on this." He says that [I]some[/I] scopes will track well all the time and some will track well only within the area of one mil of dialing and go off the reservation in a 10 mil box. And then there is a test done on Precision Rifle Blog. It shows that MOST scopes do not track consistently accurately. Only [B]FOUR [/B]scopes tracked accurately through their full range, namely: Hensoldt ZF 3.5 - 26 X 56 Kahles K 6 - 24 X56 U.S. Optics ER25 5 - 25 X58 Valdala IOR RECON Tatical 4 - 28 X50 This was from 18 scopes tested, and 11 brands. All top scopes including a few from Nightforce. So I was wrong too in my choice of "good turret scopes", despite the exceptional precision of manufacture of the Nightforce BEAST turrets. Even the highly respected Schmidt & Bender had some error. All testing was done on Horus C.A.T.S. precision targets made for this purpose. This thread was started with a question. I have given my answer and the reasons for it. Note that I am ONLY referring to large "Christmas tree" reticles like the H59, the TREMOR type and Bushnell's Eliminator III with its small dots, and [I]not[/I] to smaller "ballistic" reticles. AND I'm referring to holding on or between mil hash marks, not on old style Mil Dot reticles and not a guesstimate in open, unreticled viewing space. **BTW, ballistic reticles are set for a certain altitude pressure, cartridge & bullet and temperature. Beyond 600 - 800 meters they will begin lying to you. "In reticle we trust" is my motto. Others can trust dialing for everything and I wish them luck. [/QUOTE]
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