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<blockquote data-quote="mrbb" data-source="post: 1174259" data-attributes="member: 11837"><p>food plots in AG area's</p><p> is a HUGE help to wildlife, reason being food plots remain AFTER the crops are harvested, </p><p>as once farmers harvest crops there is slim pickings for wildlife that lived off them!</p><p> that was why CO op farms back in the day were so KEY to having a lot of wildlife</p><p> CO op farms are far and few these days, due to lack of cooperation between farmers and game commission, too many feuds, and since I know and farm myself</p><p> I know why, the state burned the bridges they once had, over the mighty dollar!</p><p></p><p> and that burnt bridge caused a TON of game to get screwed in the process! which in return hit the hunter, with a lot less land access as well as less game, due to less food for it!</p><p> I know a LOT of game wardens personally, many from the glory days, I have log books and journals from the 50's and 60's(early 70's)</p><p> that were givin to me by wife's of wardens that have passed away </p><p> and the things they did back then as to now, is a night and day difference in actual WORK they did to keep forest healthy, and how they worked with farmers, as to blowing them off now a days!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I do NOT think its all about ELK in PA< NOT by any means</p><p> I think folks that live /hunt in elk lands, DO fell this way, due to there effected more by things they do there, BUT most of PA is Elk free by a HUGE margin!</p><p></p><p> the state GC dos plant foot plots, as of the last 10 yrs or so, BUT the amount per acre they own, is SUPER small percentage !</p><p> the NG companys have maybe planted more in the past 5 yrs than the GC has in 10 yrs!</p><p></p><p> FOOD plots are NOT a sure key to wildlife return or health</p><p> BUT it helps forest recover a LOT more, by giving them something else to eat while they new growth takes off!</p><p></p><p> it helps provide BETTER food after crops go too!</p><p></p><p> DEER by nature are NOT crop eaters, that is something they advanced into to survive and thrive in many places however</p><p> but a deer is a Browsing eating machine , under NORMAL healthy forest conditions!</p><p> but when lack of GOOD browse is abundant, they adapted to eating crops to survive</p><p> and the food plot company marketed in on this and made many folks rich in the process, and its CHANGED the way a LARGE portion of hunters hunt now too!</p><p></p><p>I cannot tell you how many GC meetings I have attended over the yrs, but a LOT</p><p> and they all sucked with passing the buck about more things than you can shake a stick at</p><p> and they never say they made a mistake, or what REAL plans are any where, unless looking to get on TV for some GOOD the local news crew can brag up on them!!</p><p></p><p></p><p> controlled burns, another OLD tool they USED to do a LOT of</p><p> they could do, now and improve habitat again!</p><p></p><p>but there is NO mistaken in the pro's of timbering</p><p></p><p> and they own a LOT of acres of mature standing timber??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrbb, post: 1174259, member: 11837"] food plots in AG area's is a HUGE help to wildlife, reason being food plots remain AFTER the crops are harvested, as once farmers harvest crops there is slim pickings for wildlife that lived off them! that was why CO op farms back in the day were so KEY to having a lot of wildlife CO op farms are far and few these days, due to lack of cooperation between farmers and game commission, too many feuds, and since I know and farm myself I know why, the state burned the bridges they once had, over the mighty dollar! and that burnt bridge caused a TON of game to get screwed in the process! which in return hit the hunter, with a lot less land access as well as less game, due to less food for it! I know a LOT of game wardens personally, many from the glory days, I have log books and journals from the 50's and 60's(early 70's) that were givin to me by wife's of wardens that have passed away and the things they did back then as to now, is a night and day difference in actual WORK they did to keep forest healthy, and how they worked with farmers, as to blowing them off now a days! I do NOT think its all about ELK in PA< NOT by any means I think folks that live /hunt in elk lands, DO fell this way, due to there effected more by things they do there, BUT most of PA is Elk free by a HUGE margin! the state GC dos plant foot plots, as of the last 10 yrs or so, BUT the amount per acre they own, is SUPER small percentage ! the NG companys have maybe planted more in the past 5 yrs than the GC has in 10 yrs! FOOD plots are NOT a sure key to wildlife return or health BUT it helps forest recover a LOT more, by giving them something else to eat while they new growth takes off! it helps provide BETTER food after crops go too! DEER by nature are NOT crop eaters, that is something they advanced into to survive and thrive in many places however but a deer is a Browsing eating machine , under NORMAL healthy forest conditions! but when lack of GOOD browse is abundant, they adapted to eating crops to survive and the food plot company marketed in on this and made many folks rich in the process, and its CHANGED the way a LARGE portion of hunters hunt now too! I cannot tell you how many GC meetings I have attended over the yrs, but a LOT and they all sucked with passing the buck about more things than you can shake a stick at and they never say they made a mistake, or what REAL plans are any where, unless looking to get on TV for some GOOD the local news crew can brag up on them!! controlled burns, another OLD tool they USED to do a LOT of they could do, now and improve habitat again! but there is NO mistaken in the pro's of timbering and they own a LOT of acres of mature standing timber?? [/QUOTE]
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