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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 167032" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p><strong>Rifling</strong></p><p></p><p>Might as well add my 2 cents!</p><p></p><p>This debate will never be settled because of different opinions</p><p>and experiences but there is an answer that should get an</p><p>"Amen" from most.</p><p></p><p>Simply put : The Quality of the barrel makes the difference </p><p>not the method used to make the rifling. any method not done</p><p>properly will not perform.</p><p></p><p>Ther is another method used to produce rifling called Hammer</p><p>Forging it is used on the ultimate long range rifles (navy 16'' guns</p><p>with an accurace of 50 feet at 18 Miles).</p><p></p><p>I have used all types of rifling and found with proper procedures</p><p>during manufacture and good smithing practice they will all perform</p><p>better than most people can shoot.</p><p></p><p>As to the issue of different grades of barrels! during manufacture</p><p>tolerances will vary so the barrel maker can reject or accept based</p><p>on there preference. And he can offer a barrel at a lower cost to </p><p>customers that are not as demanding as some of Us.</p><p></p><p>I ask Lilja why he buttoned instead of cut his rifling and his reply was</p><p>(If it was better I would) And I beleve him.</p><p></p><p>Lilja flutes his barrels and shillen does not. when I ask shillen why</p><p>not? he said I'm not setup to do it and don't warranty if done by </p><p>someone else because (If done improperly it will effect accuracy and</p><p>safety)</p><p></p><p>Lilja does his in house and has control of the process ,I am not setup</p><p>to flute so I would have Lilja do mine.</p><p></p><p>As far as delivery from lilja I have only ordered a few barrels from him</p><p>and he met the 8 to 10 week PROMISED delivery date .</p><p></p><p>Every manufacture will claim there product is the best and well they</p><p>should but it's really the gun smith and the end user that determines</p><p>that.</p><p></p><p>Get the best barrel and gun smith (In your opinion) and the outcome</p><p>should be very good .</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 167032, member: 2736"] [b]Rifling[/b] Might as well add my 2 cents! This debate will never be settled because of different opinions and experiences but there is an answer that should get an "Amen" from most. Simply put : The Quality of the barrel makes the difference not the method used to make the rifling. any method not done properly will not perform. Ther is another method used to produce rifling called Hammer Forging it is used on the ultimate long range rifles (navy 16'' guns with an accurace of 50 feet at 18 Miles). I have used all types of rifling and found with proper procedures during manufacture and good smithing practice they will all perform better than most people can shoot. As to the issue of different grades of barrels! during manufacture tolerances will vary so the barrel maker can reject or accept based on there preference. And he can offer a barrel at a lower cost to customers that are not as demanding as some of Us. I ask Lilja why he buttoned instead of cut his rifling and his reply was (If it was better I would) And I beleve him. Lilja flutes his barrels and shillen does not. when I ask shillen why not? he said I'm not setup to do it and don't warranty if done by someone else because (If done improperly it will effect accuracy and safety) Lilja does his in house and has control of the process ,I am not setup to flute so I would have Lilja do mine. As far as delivery from lilja I have only ordered a few barrels from him and he met the 8 to 10 week PROMISED delivery date . Every manufacture will claim there product is the best and well they should but it's really the gun smith and the end user that determines that. Get the best barrel and gun smith (In your opinion) and the outcome should be very good . J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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