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<blockquote data-quote="44hunter45" data-source="post: 1545367" data-attributes="member: 102573"><p>What a fascinating thread. The OP may have bolted, but I hope he is still lurking and reading this. I smell a lot of combined elk knowledge here. </p><p>Here's another North Idahoan saying less scope is more. I run a Vx-3i 4.5-14X50 on my .264 WM. Every other rifle in the safe has a 3-9 Leupold or a 2-8x42 or 2-10x42 Zeiss. I've shot more elk close than far. Lefty's point about ABLR is dead on. This game is all about knowing what your bullet will do at what velocity. This is where I plug Nathan Foster at Terminal Ballistics Research in NZ. His knowledge base and caliber specific articles are great to help chose the right bullet at an expected range and downrange velocity for your rig. </p><p>I use more "cheap" bullets than premium. I've had really good luck with the 140 grn SPBT Gamekings in my two 6.5s. One of them is fast and the other slow. Occasionally TBBC or Berger VLD hunter. I'm experimenting with ELD-x but haven't landed on a favorite load yet. I use Speer 180 grn Hotcor SPBT for deer in .30-06 and TBBC when I'm out for elk. But I've killed 4 elk with the Speers when I tripped over them while deer hunting. CLOSE! I will sometimes run a TBBC in the pipe and a cup&core in the magazine. If they are far off you have time to think about bullet choice. </p><p>My big thing about all this is that 600 yards(1800 ft) is 0.6 seconds away at 3200fps. an AWFUL lot can happen with critters on 0.6 seconds. IF you mis-hit an animal at that range it is now wonton waste, you sure as heck are never even going to find the spot it was standing when you hit it, much less track it. The OP says he is confident out to 600. But elk are not paper. They move and paper doesn't give you elk fever. 45 years in the woods and I still feel my heart pound on a big buck or bull.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="44hunter45, post: 1545367, member: 102573"] What a fascinating thread. The OP may have bolted, but I hope he is still lurking and reading this. I smell a lot of combined elk knowledge here. Here's another North Idahoan saying less scope is more. I run a Vx-3i 4.5-14X50 on my .264 WM. Every other rifle in the safe has a 3-9 Leupold or a 2-8x42 or 2-10x42 Zeiss. I've shot more elk close than far. Lefty's point about ABLR is dead on. This game is all about knowing what your bullet will do at what velocity. This is where I plug Nathan Foster at Terminal Ballistics Research in NZ. His knowledge base and caliber specific articles are great to help chose the right bullet at an expected range and downrange velocity for your rig. I use more "cheap" bullets than premium. I've had really good luck with the 140 grn SPBT Gamekings in my two 6.5s. One of them is fast and the other slow. Occasionally TBBC or Berger VLD hunter. I'm experimenting with ELD-x but haven't landed on a favorite load yet. I use Speer 180 grn Hotcor SPBT for deer in .30-06 and TBBC when I'm out for elk. But I've killed 4 elk with the Speers when I tripped over them while deer hunting. CLOSE! I will sometimes run a TBBC in the pipe and a cup&core in the magazine. If they are far off you have time to think about bullet choice. My big thing about all this is that 600 yards(1800 ft) is 0.6 seconds away at 3200fps. an AWFUL lot can happen with critters on 0.6 seconds. IF you mis-hit an animal at that range it is now wonton waste, you sure as heck are never even going to find the spot it was standing when you hit it, much less track it. The OP says he is confident out to 600. But elk are not paper. They move and paper doesn't give you elk fever. 45 years in the woods and I still feel my heart pound on a big buck or bull. [/QUOTE]
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