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<blockquote data-quote="aroshtr" data-source="post: 785387" data-attributes="member: 9176"><p>Mark, you are exactly right, and I am in no way trying to argue, or disagree with your and science. </p><p></p><p>I was a little slow at doing my math by hand and compass drawings to get some actual figures. So, I guess since I did the math I will put what I came up with.</p><p></p><p>1.75" Sight Height, I actually came up with about .3" from center-line at 10 degrees. </p><p></p><p>If you were 10 degrees off with the rifle (Which would be blatantly obvious)</p><p>100yrd Zero = 2.7" off center at 1000 yards</p><p>200yrd Zero = 1.2" off center at 1000 yards</p><p>300yrd Zero = .7" off Center at 1000 yards</p><p></p><p>Most of my rifles have a 200 or 300 yard zero for my drop data/site tape, but I usually sight in and set my elevation and windage turrets at 500 yards. This helsp make up for any slight errors in my data. So in theroy If I set my windage at 500 then I will only be off .3" at 1000 yards from my gun being at some ridiculous 10 degree angle. Now when I set my guns up for a comfortable feel, I would bet that I am well within 5 degrees of square, and all these numbers would be about 1/2 their values.</p><p></p><p>I guess the point I am trying to make is that too many guys try and make this complicated and worry that if it isn't perfect then they won't be able to shoot accurately at long range. When the truth is, if you eyeball the gun, or use some other half *** method to get you close, it really is no big deal. Especially if you zero at 200. It is even better if you set the windage and elevation at your expected mid range shot distance. In this case the margin of error is much smaller than any gun or human being is capable of shooting.</p><p></p><p>The take away..... If it makes a guy feel better to spend your time and money on fancy gadgets and levels to get the gun perfectly level to the scope, that's fine. But for me and lots of other guys, my time is better spent shooting and confirming my drop data.</p><p></p><p>Joel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aroshtr, post: 785387, member: 9176"] Mark, you are exactly right, and I am in no way trying to argue, or disagree with your and science. I was a little slow at doing my math by hand and compass drawings to get some actual figures. So, I guess since I did the math I will put what I came up with. 1.75" Sight Height, I actually came up with about .3" from center-line at 10 degrees. If you were 10 degrees off with the rifle (Which would be blatantly obvious) 100yrd Zero = 2.7" off center at 1000 yards 200yrd Zero = 1.2" off center at 1000 yards 300yrd Zero = .7" off Center at 1000 yards Most of my rifles have a 200 or 300 yard zero for my drop data/site tape, but I usually sight in and set my elevation and windage turrets at 500 yards. This helsp make up for any slight errors in my data. So in theroy If I set my windage at 500 then I will only be off .3" at 1000 yards from my gun being at some ridiculous 10 degree angle. Now when I set my guns up for a comfortable feel, I would bet that I am well within 5 degrees of square, and all these numbers would be about 1/2 their values. I guess the point I am trying to make is that too many guys try and make this complicated and worry that if it isn't perfect then they won't be able to shoot accurately at long range. When the truth is, if you eyeball the gun, or use some other half *** method to get you close, it really is no big deal. Especially if you zero at 200. It is even better if you set the windage and elevation at your expected mid range shot distance. In this case the margin of error is much smaller than any gun or human being is capable of shooting. The take away..... If it makes a guy feel better to spend your time and money on fancy gadgets and levels to get the gun perfectly level to the scope, that's fine. But for me and lots of other guys, my time is better spent shooting and confirming my drop data. Joel [/QUOTE]
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