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Best methods to create low ES and SD hand loads with the easiest and simplest reloading work up.
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<blockquote data-quote="Wachsmann" data-source="post: 1735369" data-attributes="member: 10429"><p>I been shooting and reloading for quite a while and I have gotten loads down to the .5 MOA round that were consistent but at times I had some fliers that I've been trying to get out of the mix. I done both powder and seating depth test before, using the comparative gauges on my ammo, and I have practiced a lot at 1000 to about 1130 yards. I wore out my 6.5X284 Norma having fun shooting rocks at various distances with this gun(4800 rounds down the pipe). I never killed one animal with that gun but it was very consistent at 2880fps 140 berger with a ES of about 15 to 18 FPS. I don't remember the SD the chrono would give me. I now have a 300RUM that I've been working loads for. I have 1 animal under my belt at 761yards with it. What I thought was a good load and was producing good results 2 years ago went totally astray. Same batch of brass, same box of bullets, and same powder. It could be the cases were just getting weak and needed to be trashed. I usually trash them at 5 reloading at max pressure. At least this is what I was calling max. The load I was shooting was...</p><p></p><p>Hornady 220 grain ELDX seated at mag length I think it was 3.62 COL</p><p>87.5 grains of RL26. I believe in the manual this is the limit where you start getting into what hornady considers use extreme caution. It was right on the edge of the red in there loading data.</p><p>Federal 215 gold metal match primer</p><p>Remington brass</p><p></p><p>This load shot very well when testing and making a kill on a buck at 761 yards. No tags drawn the next year gun and rounds set in house over a year. (gun was cleaned) I took the gun back out and the rounds were not shooting the same group and my velocity was changing quite a bit.</p><p>Just looking back at some of the other stuff I loaded over the years I never seen my ES or SD in the single digits. So I started the thread to try and see what else people do that gets great results. I just watch some videos on the Satterlee load test and I might try to do this to see where some of the nodes are for some of the bullets I have for my 300 RUM. I have on hand the 220 ELDX, 225 ELDM, 230 bergers, 210 bergers, and some 210 Accubond LR's. I'll probably stick to the 220 ELDX for now since I already had some data that worked a mag length on the rifle.</p><p>I'll also be using H1000 or Retumbo for powder. RL26 is hard to come by now. I know I need to stick with one bullet, and one powder, but its nice to have some backups as long as I don't wear out the barrel on this one. Its fun to go out and ring steal at 1000 yards and have the confidence you can take an animal at 800 or so. It's nice to have you system tweaked to best of its ability with what you have to work with and you finances allow. Does it make you a better hunter probably not, but it does make you a better shooter and ups your skill level and understanding or learning any thing that we may be able to add to our bag of tools by learning from what other do. For as the load that I took the buck with I think it was at a node but it must be on the edge of one and any other interference with it probably is throwing it out. I'll be testing it with the Satterlee method net and graph out the results to see where the nodes are at.</p><p>Really I just need to get a 6.5 Creedmoor and it would solve everything.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wachsmann, post: 1735369, member: 10429"] I been shooting and reloading for quite a while and I have gotten loads down to the .5 MOA round that were consistent but at times I had some fliers that I've been trying to get out of the mix. I done both powder and seating depth test before, using the comparative gauges on my ammo, and I have practiced a lot at 1000 to about 1130 yards. I wore out my 6.5X284 Norma having fun shooting rocks at various distances with this gun(4800 rounds down the pipe). I never killed one animal with that gun but it was very consistent at 2880fps 140 berger with a ES of about 15 to 18 FPS. I don't remember the SD the chrono would give me. I now have a 300RUM that I've been working loads for. I have 1 animal under my belt at 761yards with it. What I thought was a good load and was producing good results 2 years ago went totally astray. Same batch of brass, same box of bullets, and same powder. It could be the cases were just getting weak and needed to be trashed. I usually trash them at 5 reloading at max pressure. At least this is what I was calling max. The load I was shooting was... Hornady 220 grain ELDX seated at mag length I think it was 3.62 COL 87.5 grains of RL26. I believe in the manual this is the limit where you start getting into what hornady considers use extreme caution. It was right on the edge of the red in there loading data. Federal 215 gold metal match primer Remington brass This load shot very well when testing and making a kill on a buck at 761 yards. No tags drawn the next year gun and rounds set in house over a year. (gun was cleaned) I took the gun back out and the rounds were not shooting the same group and my velocity was changing quite a bit. Just looking back at some of the other stuff I loaded over the years I never seen my ES or SD in the single digits. So I started the thread to try and see what else people do that gets great results. I just watch some videos on the Satterlee load test and I might try to do this to see where some of the nodes are for some of the bullets I have for my 300 RUM. I have on hand the 220 ELDX, 225 ELDM, 230 bergers, 210 bergers, and some 210 Accubond LR's. I'll probably stick to the 220 ELDX for now since I already had some data that worked a mag length on the rifle. I'll also be using H1000 or Retumbo for powder. RL26 is hard to come by now. I know I need to stick with one bullet, and one powder, but its nice to have some backups as long as I don't wear out the barrel on this one. Its fun to go out and ring steal at 1000 yards and have the confidence you can take an animal at 800 or so. It's nice to have you system tweaked to best of its ability with what you have to work with and you finances allow. Does it make you a better hunter probably not, but it does make you a better shooter and ups your skill level and understanding or learning any thing that we may be able to add to our bag of tools by learning from what other do. For as the load that I took the buck with I think it was at a node but it must be on the edge of one and any other interference with it probably is throwing it out. I'll be testing it with the Satterlee method net and graph out the results to see where the nodes are at. Really I just need to get a 6.5 Creedmoor and it would solve everything.:p:p:p [/QUOTE]
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