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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1185213" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>If you're referring to noise maker rounds, that launch and then make a bang like fireworks, I wouldn't value them at any close range. At close range, the firearm itself makes a loud noise. Sometimes a loud noise will scare them away. Most often not.</p><p></p><p>I fired a round past the head of a grizzly bear last fall at a distance of ~30yds and there was no response from the bear. He didn't even blink, let alone run. Yesterday I read a research article on bears' response to the sound of gunfire. 33% of the time the bears would depart. 66% of the time there was no response. 1% of the time, the bear charged. This article advised against firing a round into the air, stating the odds were the bear wouldn't respond by leaving, and that you'd have one less round available to stop the bear. </p><p></p><p>I know one local hunter who was among of the 1%. He fired a round over the head of a large brown bear on the Kenai Peninsula, which incited an instant charge. He got one round off (30-06) before the bear flattened him to the ground and crunched his face. Fortunately he had a .44 Mag S&W in a shoulder holster. With his head in the bear's mouth, he jabbed the muzzle into the fur above him and fired that last four 4 rounds into the underside of the bear. The first two rounds were fired with the revolver in the shoulder holster in the effort to get to bear to lift its paws off his chest so he could clear the revolver from the holster. After absorbing the 4 slugs, the bear paused, and then turned and ambled away, sparing the man's life. This bear's carcass was never found, even though a lot of effort was invested by F&G and the man's immediate family members. Do a Google search using the search terms Dale Bagley and bear attack and you'll be able to read about it. Mr. Bagley spent quite some time in the hospital, undergoing reconstructive surgery.</p><p></p><p>There are bean bag rounds, similar to those used by law enforcement for riot control. And rubber slugs which will bounce off a bear at farther distances. Fish&Game will sometimes recommend the use of these to discourage nuisance barkyard bears, from the safety of your home. Those will likely encourage a bear to leave, without causing physical injury to the bear. I wouldn't own or use any of these rounds out in the wild. All they do is reduce the number of lethal rounds available to kill a bear with a butt-ugly attitude.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1185213, member: 4191"] If you're referring to noise maker rounds, that launch and then make a bang like fireworks, I wouldn't value them at any close range. At close range, the firearm itself makes a loud noise. Sometimes a loud noise will scare them away. Most often not. I fired a round past the head of a grizzly bear last fall at a distance of ~30yds and there was no response from the bear. He didn't even blink, let alone run. Yesterday I read a research article on bears' response to the sound of gunfire. 33% of the time the bears would depart. 66% of the time there was no response. 1% of the time, the bear charged. This article advised against firing a round into the air, stating the odds were the bear wouldn't respond by leaving, and that you'd have one less round available to stop the bear. I know one local hunter who was among of the 1%. He fired a round over the head of a large brown bear on the Kenai Peninsula, which incited an instant charge. He got one round off (30-06) before the bear flattened him to the ground and crunched his face. Fortunately he had a .44 Mag S&W in a shoulder holster. With his head in the bear's mouth, he jabbed the muzzle into the fur above him and fired that last four 4 rounds into the underside of the bear. The first two rounds were fired with the revolver in the shoulder holster in the effort to get to bear to lift its paws off his chest so he could clear the revolver from the holster. After absorbing the 4 slugs, the bear paused, and then turned and ambled away, sparing the man's life. This bear's carcass was never found, even though a lot of effort was invested by F&G and the man's immediate family members. Do a Google search using the search terms Dale Bagley and bear attack and you'll be able to read about it. Mr. Bagley spent quite some time in the hospital, undergoing reconstructive surgery. There are bean bag rounds, similar to those used by law enforcement for riot control. And rubber slugs which will bounce off a bear at farther distances. Fish&Game will sometimes recommend the use of these to discourage nuisance barkyard bears, from the safety of your home. Those will likely encourage a bear to leave, without causing physical injury to the bear. I wouldn't own or use any of these rounds out in the wild. All they do is reduce the number of lethal rounds available to kill a bear with a butt-ugly attitude. [/QUOTE]
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