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Adequate Cartridge for Elk???
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<blockquote data-quote="JaseinMT" data-source="post: 948821" data-attributes="member: 69125"><p>I snipe 1/2 L water bottles at 350-400 yds with my 223. I don't miss, as long as the wind isn't a factor. With my preferred big game hunting load, I do almost as well, though I shoot it less often, and I'm at the limit of what my gun will group. It took a lot of shooting to get to that point, because recoil, muzzle blast, noise, etc are factors until one masters them. The long-range forum is not the place to belabor this point, because long-range shooters understand these things all too well, but this thread was started by someone wanting to know what an adequate elk cartridge is. </p><p></p><p> My replies here, given my general experience with elk hunters, center around the idea that any cartridge you can shoot and hit what you are aiming at every time is the one to use. If that is a 24 cal, then it will work. I know of guys that hunt with 22-250's and shoot the heart, which is legal in Mt. If it is a 338-378, then that is a reasonable choice. Magnum-type power just isn't necessary, and often is a detriment to those who don't shoot often, and some that do. </p><p></p><p>So the question of adequate for elk is not one of a power level, but one of accurate shooting. A gut-shot bull shot with a 338 RUM can run for miles, and good luck finding him, but a heart-shot bull shot with any legal caliber won't make it 200 yds, and likely not more than a few steps. Arguing for more power makes no sense in this regard. As powerful as you can shoot just because it's an elk has been the reason for ALL of the lost animals that I've been witness to. The adequate cartridge is the one you can hit the vitals with. End of story.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JaseinMT, post: 948821, member: 69125"] I snipe 1/2 L water bottles at 350-400 yds with my 223. I don't miss, as long as the wind isn't a factor. With my preferred big game hunting load, I do almost as well, though I shoot it less often, and I'm at the limit of what my gun will group. It took a lot of shooting to get to that point, because recoil, muzzle blast, noise, etc are factors until one masters them. The long-range forum is not the place to belabor this point, because long-range shooters understand these things all too well, but this thread was started by someone wanting to know what an adequate elk cartridge is. My replies here, given my general experience with elk hunters, center around the idea that any cartridge you can shoot and hit what you are aiming at every time is the one to use. If that is a 24 cal, then it will work. I know of guys that hunt with 22-250's and shoot the heart, which is legal in Mt. If it is a 338-378, then that is a reasonable choice. Magnum-type power just isn't necessary, and often is a detriment to those who don't shoot often, and some that do. So the question of adequate for elk is not one of a power level, but one of accurate shooting. A gut-shot bull shot with a 338 RUM can run for miles, and good luck finding him, but a heart-shot bull shot with any legal caliber won't make it 200 yds, and likely not more than a few steps. Arguing for more power makes no sense in this regard. As powerful as you can shoot just because it's an elk has been the reason for ALL of the lost animals that I've been witness to. The adequate cartridge is the one you can hit the vitals with. End of story. [/QUOTE]
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