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6XC or 243 Win?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kimber.204" data-source="post: 2329821" data-attributes="member: 102567"><p>[USER=95344]@xsn10s[/USER] </p><p></p><p>When I got back into rifle shooting a few years ago I was shooting a lot of .308win out of a couple different guns - both light weight and heavy weight.</p><p></p><p>I was looking to get into NRA Highpower and I had heard how John Whidden did so well so often with a straight .243Win. I asked around and everyone said to go with a straight 6mm BR......So, naturally, I bought a Ruger Precision Rifle in .243 Win - shot great, but not built for NRA Highpower. The .243 is so light recoiling compared to the .308 it's amazing.</p><p></p><p>Then I moved to an Eliseo Chassis (built for NRA Highpower) and after meeting Joe Hendricks (NRA National Champion) who designed and used a 6mm Comp Match I decided to chamber my Eliseo in that. The 6mm Comp Match is a .243win with a steeper shoulder and a minimum dimension chamber. With the 6CompMatch I could easily run a 115gr DTAC bullet at 3100fps....using between 47 - 50grs of some magnum powder (H1000 or Ramshot Magnum....Joe and his son us VV powders). Barrel life was awesome. Joe's son won a CMP national match a few years ago with something like 3100 or 3200 rounds on his barrel.</p><p></p><p>I began to think it was crazy to stuff 50grs of powder into my case just to shoot paper between 200 and 600 yards. So I started looking at other cartridges. I moved to a 6XC using the David Tubb reamer (he has an explanation of 6XC vs 6XCii on his website). My 6XC loads use between 37 and 40grs of powder. The difference in recoil from a 6CompMatch and a 6XC was night and day. A .243 is mild recoil, but I've got a skinny build, and at the end of a day laying in the sun straining to put 80 rounds plus sighters in the x-ring....the lower recoil of the 6XC really help. I ended up being sponsored by Peterson Cartridge Co using their factory loaded 6XC ammo. The first lot of ammo that I had used H4350 and the barrel only lasted 1800 rounds. The second barrel was similar. The 3rd (and present) barrel has only been shot using rounds loaded with 6.5StaBall. (Side note: with 6.5StaBall, I've never seen any copper on my patches...but they are black as coal at first.).</p><p></p><p>Well, I got the itch to try something new and stumbled into a 6BRA prefit for my action. Using Peterson 6BR brass I fireformed some brass - super accurate. Recoil is like shooting a .22LR. Using my fireformed brass I loaded up some 112gr Barnes Match Burners and I was able to safely get those bullets within 20fps of my 6XC load, but using 10gr less powder. 20fps doesn't translate to very much on target at 600 yards in the conditions that I have been shooting matches in the last few years. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, for you.......243win all the way. Who wants to bother prepping 22-250 brass for the 6XC when folks like Peterson have both Large and Small rifle primed brass? You mentioned saving powder, and you could get an extra 20-30 rounds from a pound of powder with the 6XC. You'll have to decide if that is more important than easy initial brass prep.</p><p></p><p>Good Luck,</p><p>Ross</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kimber.204, post: 2329821, member: 102567"] [USER=95344]@xsn10s[/USER] When I got back into rifle shooting a few years ago I was shooting a lot of .308win out of a couple different guns - both light weight and heavy weight. I was looking to get into NRA Highpower and I had heard how John Whidden did so well so often with a straight .243Win. I asked around and everyone said to go with a straight 6mm BR......So, naturally, I bought a Ruger Precision Rifle in .243 Win - shot great, but not built for NRA Highpower. The .243 is so light recoiling compared to the .308 it's amazing. Then I moved to an Eliseo Chassis (built for NRA Highpower) and after meeting Joe Hendricks (NRA National Champion) who designed and used a 6mm Comp Match I decided to chamber my Eliseo in that. The 6mm Comp Match is a .243win with a steeper shoulder and a minimum dimension chamber. With the 6CompMatch I could easily run a 115gr DTAC bullet at 3100fps....using between 47 - 50grs of some magnum powder (H1000 or Ramshot Magnum....Joe and his son us VV powders). Barrel life was awesome. Joe's son won a CMP national match a few years ago with something like 3100 or 3200 rounds on his barrel. I began to think it was crazy to stuff 50grs of powder into my case just to shoot paper between 200 and 600 yards. So I started looking at other cartridges. I moved to a 6XC using the David Tubb reamer (he has an explanation of 6XC vs 6XCii on his website). My 6XC loads use between 37 and 40grs of powder. The difference in recoil from a 6CompMatch and a 6XC was night and day. A .243 is mild recoil, but I've got a skinny build, and at the end of a day laying in the sun straining to put 80 rounds plus sighters in the x-ring....the lower recoil of the 6XC really help. I ended up being sponsored by Peterson Cartridge Co using their factory loaded 6XC ammo. The first lot of ammo that I had used H4350 and the barrel only lasted 1800 rounds. The second barrel was similar. The 3rd (and present) barrel has only been shot using rounds loaded with 6.5StaBall. (Side note: with 6.5StaBall, I've never seen any copper on my patches...but they are black as coal at first.). Well, I got the itch to try something new and stumbled into a 6BRA prefit for my action. Using Peterson 6BR brass I fireformed some brass - super accurate. Recoil is like shooting a .22LR. Using my fireformed brass I loaded up some 112gr Barnes Match Burners and I was able to safely get those bullets within 20fps of my 6XC load, but using 10gr less powder. 20fps doesn't translate to very much on target at 600 yards in the conditions that I have been shooting matches in the last few years. So, for you.......243win all the way. Who wants to bother prepping 22-250 brass for the 6XC when folks like Peterson have both Large and Small rifle primed brass? You mentioned saving powder, and you could get an extra 20-30 rounds from a pound of powder with the 6XC. You'll have to decide if that is more important than easy initial brass prep. Good Luck, Ross [/QUOTE]
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