I know the Weatherby is a couple classes above the Remington 700, but I want to make sure I am not wasting money going with the Weatherby over the Remington. I'm wanting to be able to reliably put a bullet in a five inch circle at 500 yards. Do I need the Weatherby to do that, or will the Remington 700 be sufficient. I'm not against spending the extra money, but do not want to if I don't have to.
REM 700 SPS RUM compared to WBY MKV Ultralight 300 WBY?
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Rich Coyle
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I'm far from a Remington apologist. In fact I have two Weatherbys. But either should be fine. If you include Savage, if they have what you want, that's the one to go with.
MudRunner2005
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Weatherby is the same as Remington, just priced about 4x as much. Don't waste your money on something shiny and pretty, when you could buy the same thing for about 1/4 of the price. Factory rifles are factory rifles, no matter what brand you buy. And in my experiences the higher-end Remington 700's, such as the Sendero and 5R Milspec rifles are much more accurate, and less finicky and picky. Also, nearly half the price of a Mark V models. I'll never buy another Weatherby unless I get it REALLY cheap, and just to use the action for a custom build.
Now, I am not hating on Weatherby because I am a Remington supporter, I am hating because I had a REALLY bad experience with an Accumark I bought brand new.
To do what you want, buy a Remington 700 5R Milspec in .308 Win, .260 Rem, or .300 WinMag and call it a day. I have 2 of them, and my .308 has shot sub-1/4 MOA groups if I do my part. It averages between .25x-.35x groups all day, any day.
JJMoody
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el matador
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I have to laugh at this. Any time there's a mention of Weatherby rifles you get Mudrunner spouting off about his "REALLY bad experience", in which he bought a rifle that was not very accurate. So he got a lemon, big freakin deal. Every company cranks out a lemon occasionally (I personally got a lemon from Cooper, but it doesn't mean their rifles suck). Weatherby rifles are significantly higher quality than the Remington SPS. I will admit that the heavy barreled Rems like the Sendero and 5Rs are a step up in quality, but those are also much heavier than the 2 guns being considered here, and double the price of the SPS. If the OP is asking about 7 lb guns I don't see much point in recommending a 9 lb gun.
The Weatherby will come with a high quality stock, very precise chamber, and a trigger that's crisp and easily tuned. The SPS gives you a plastic stock, sloppy chamber, and a trigger you'll probably want to replace. The barrel on the Wby is hand-lapped so you won't have to worry about fouling like you do on the cheap Remingtons. The Weatherby has an accuracy guarantee. These are both factory rifles but they are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
I have nothing against factory Remingtons. I own a Model Seven that I really like, but I understand it's limitations. When it shoots sub-moa I'm pleasantly surprised. With some bullets it won't shoot sub-moa and that's just life with a factory Remington. My 700 LSS performed exactly the same way until I had a decent barrel put on it.
If the goal is to reliably put 5 shots into 5" at 500 yards I think you'll need some luck to do it with the SPS. Some of them shoot well and others don't. They take more effort to find good loads for. With the Weatherby I would be confident the goal could be reached without too much effort.
While I do like Weatherby rifles I think they are a bit overpriced if you pay retail. They have a better fit and finish than the $1200 Remington heavy barreled guns, and a much better trigger, which for me puts them at about a $1600 gun.
If you drop the coin on a Weatherby you won't regret it. Look at both rifles in person if you get a chance and the differences will be pretty obvious.
The Weatherby will come with a high quality stock, very precise chamber, and a trigger that's crisp and easily tuned. The SPS gives you a plastic stock, sloppy chamber, and a trigger you'll probably want to replace. The barrel on the Wby is hand-lapped so you won't have to worry about fouling like you do on the cheap Remingtons. The Weatherby has an accuracy guarantee. These are both factory rifles but they are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
I have nothing against factory Remingtons. I own a Model Seven that I really like, but I understand it's limitations. When it shoots sub-moa I'm pleasantly surprised. With some bullets it won't shoot sub-moa and that's just life with a factory Remington. My 700 LSS performed exactly the same way until I had a decent barrel put on it.
If the goal is to reliably put 5 shots into 5" at 500 yards I think you'll need some luck to do it with the SPS. Some of them shoot well and others don't. They take more effort to find good loads for. With the Weatherby I would be confident the goal could be reached without too much effort.
While I do like Weatherby rifles I think they are a bit overpriced if you pay retail. They have a better fit and finish than the $1200 Remington heavy barreled guns, and a much better trigger, which for me puts them at about a $1600 gun.
If you drop the coin on a Weatherby you won't regret it. Look at both rifles in person if you get a chance and the differences will be pretty obvious.
There are still people who think the Earth is flat, the moon landings were faked and the 6.5 Creedmoor is the best cartridge ever. So yeah there are still some Weatherby nuthuggers as well, plenty of Remmy nuthuggers for sure.
I have a 300 RUM that started life as a BDL version. I put it into a B&C stock and adj. the trigger. It has shot moa with loads it likes. It is on its second barrel, this one a ss sps take off, and still doing moa.
I would think the MkV ultra light would work as well but I have read and heard that they can be hard to get consistent. I do have a Vanguard in 257 that shoots great and that is my only hands on with Weatherbys.
It boils down to what rifle you like best in my book.
I would think the MkV ultra light would work as well but I have read and heard that they can be hard to get consistent. I do have a Vanguard in 257 that shoots great and that is my only hands on with Weatherbys.
It boils down to what rifle you like best in my book.
If the goal is to hit 5 in 5" at 500....buy a Weatherby. If the goal is to have a safety fail and get a huge payout for your widow....get a Remmy. Wanna shoot .5MOA out to 1k? Buy a Savage....if the barrel wont do .5MOA spend $300 more and it will.
MudRunner2005
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No they're not.
