408 The way it should be

[TwistedFox]

TwistedFox,

Who makes the powder scale in the photos from the first post? I have never seen that one before, though I do lead a fairly sheltered life.

Thank you, Scott

It's just one of many painted powder scales I have every thing in lime green the one on photo is a layman's I think gen 6

 

[TwistedFox]

Words well put Fox, the reality is the limits and how hard they can be pushed with some type of repeatability. It always looks easy and achievable in the videos on. The webs but to do it at any given time under pressure and a time restraint is what pushes the shooting industry to preform and exceed as to what most folks say can't be done. The trickle effect benefits everyone in time.

Also dollar signs always appear that folks tend to assume is the real deal. The cost of a high quality ELR being built by a smith that has done many in this category is not as far out of touch to some of the high end hunting rifles and sport shotguns. Brass is a component that if of good quality and the reloader knows what he's doing can last a dozen or more firings powder is powder and is like gassing up the car I look at bullet and primer cost and when purchased right in my case with a 416 wildcat is $3.65 a round.

Barrel wear figured in to the cost of a round is debatable as well this would be like trying to compare street rods that some folks smoke the heck out of their tires every time it comes out of the garage and some maybe just here and there. If a person has a over bored hot rod of a rifle it can all matter on how hard he has to push it at the many shooting event that are available today. Shooting at a gun range versus having to heat her up with out a choice makes a difference.

This isn't taking anything away from any of the light classes or smaller calibers and the fun that goes with it, I think the original focus here is the efforts on pushing the extended limits that benefit everyone at the end of the day.

Keep up the good work Fox and Swamp

I am osoh
JHeeg

Thanks jeff I pro and I always like hearing from you
Knowledgable and a dam good elr shooter a guy who is always looking for a edge in a sport that is so competitive thanks for the moral support

 

[TwistedFox]

Words well put Fox, the reality is the limits and how hard they can be pushed with some type of repeatability. It always looks easy and achievable in the videos on the webs but to do it at any given time under pressure and a time restraint is what pushes the shooting industry to preform and exceed as to what most folks say can't be done. The trickle effect benefits everyone in time.

Also dollar signs always appear that folks tend to assume is the real deal. The cost of a high quality ELR rig being built by a smith that has done many in this category is not as far out of touch to some of the high end hunting rifles and sport shotguns. Brass is a component that if of good quality and the reloader knows what he's doing can last a dozen or more firings. Powder is powder and is like gassing up the car I look at bullet and primer cost and when purchased right in my case with a 416 wildcat is $3.65 a round.

Barrel wear figured in to the cost of a round is debatable as well this would be like trying to compare street rods that some folks smoke the heck out of their tires every time it comes out of the garage and some maybe just here and there. If a person has a over bored hot rod of a rifle it can all matter on how hard he has to push it at the many shooting event that are available today. Shooting at a gun range versus having to heat her up with out a choice makes a difference.

This isn't taking anything away from any of the light classes or smaller calibers and the fun that goes with it, I think the original focus here is the efforts on pushing the extended limits that benefit everyone at the end of the day.

Keep up the good work Fox and Swamp

I am osoh
JHeeg

Are you going to ko2m Canada? if so hope to see you there.

 

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

Sad to say no, the dates conflicted with a industry show for work, now most of them have been getting cancelled this spring and summer? figures.

I am osoh
JH

 

[TwistedFox]

Sad to say no, the dates conflicted with a industry show for work, now most of them have been getting cancelled this spring and summer? figures.

I am osoh
JH

I am thinking it's about the only one that is not going to get canceled this year since it is in August I believe. Plus it's my opportunity to get into the king of 2 miles cuz as of yet I've been told there's no way I will get in here in the USA is I don't have the ranking to do so. LOL

 

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

Hopefully all works out and you get some trigger time. I hope they end up with a good group of shooters making the trip being that this will be their first KO2M in Canada.

I am osoh
JH

 

[Bushhog57]

WOW.. you guys left me at the get-go.. my head is spinning...

 

[Jeff Heeg osoh]

Bushhog57


Hang on tight its going to be a good ride.

Cheers
I am osoh
JH

 

[TwistedFox]

Bushhog57


Hang on tight its going to be a good ride.

Cheers
I am osoh
JH

The funny thing is I've been handling monster cartridges for so long and so many of them when I see cases like a 223 get it confused with a 22 Hornet improved until I look at the rim then I get real confused. I look at a 308 I don't know what the hell it is LOL

 

[25WSM]

You guys are shooting artillery.
Shep

 

[Buck Fever]

I think these cats are all smaller than .50 BMG.

For me, artillery starts somewhere over 19mm, a big boomer smaller than that is in my "crew served weapon" category which only partially overlaps artillery in my Ven diagram.

 

[25WSM]

Artillery is a class of heavy military ranged weapons built to launch munitions far beyond the range and power of infantry firearms. I think this defines their weapons. Maybe not the heavy military part but ranging far beyond an infantry firearm for sure. Either way these are some seriously big cartridges.
Shep

 

[TwistedFox]

You guys are shooting artillery.
Shep

You guys are shooting artillery.
Shep

Artillery is a class of heavy military ranged weapons built to launch munitions far beyond the range and power of infantry firearms. I think this defines their weapons. Maybe not the heavy military part but ranging far beyond an infantry firearm for sure. Either way these are some seriously big cartridges.
Shep

here is a photo of some of our other cartridges note the one on the far rt it is the 416 colossus its longer the the 408 colossus that this post is about.

perspective compair the 338 lapua on the far lt compared to the 458 goliath now you know what kind if stuff we are doing the goliath has more capacity then a bmg case but it's the same length as the cheytac case

 

[25WSM]

That's cracking me up. The 338 lapua looks small. Goliath looks like a super sized 300wsm. Can I buy a dummy round with seated bullet from you.
Shep