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<blockquote data-quote="Tadd" data-source="post: 3093567" data-attributes="member: 36004"><p>Here is an analysis that Dr. James Kroll (aka Dr. Deer) posted on his Facebook page regarding the article/study cited.</p><p></p><p>"Here is what has to be one of the most unscientific papers we have ever read, and a group of the top wildlife and animal disease scientists agree with Doc! These folks take one case involving development of the human form of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies, called Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (sCJD) in two individuals as "proof" that CWD has infected humans! 85% of CJD cases are Sporadic (happening from some unknown cause), and 10-15% are genetic. The national infection rate in humans is less than 1.5 per million!</p><p></p><p>The authors take this one "cluster" of two, each of which not only were diagnosed as sporadic but these individuals were genetically disposed to developing CJD!</p><p></p><p>Then they refer to a study never published in Canada on monkies and others using mice models as "evidence" that it is "plausible" that, since these two men were in a population that eats venison, it "could" be documentation that humans can catch CWD!</p><p></p><p>Next, science always involves an hypothesis and an experimental design that rigorously tests the hypothesis. In scientific, peer-reviewed papers, the authors normally disclose in detail their experimental design and methods, under a section subtitled "Methods and Materials." Here is what this short paper discloses:</p><p></p><p>"Design/Methods:</p><p></p><p>Not applicable."</p><p></p><p>They conclude,</p><p></p><p>"Based on non-human primate and mouse models, cross-species transmission of CJD is plausible. Due to the challenge of distinguishing sCJDMM1 from CWD without detailed prion protein characterization, it is not possible to definitively rule out CWD in these cases. Although causation remains unproven, this cluster emphasizes the need for further investigation into the potential risks of consuming CWD-infected deer and its implications for public health."</p><p></p><p>There are about 13 million hunters in the U.S. using CDC data, that means that about 20 humans in that population will annually contract CJD. That two of these happened to know each other seems more a case of coincidence than cause-and-effect!</p><p></p><p>The last sentence cuts to the chase:a call for more research!</p><p></p><p>Folks, we told you the CWD camp was getting desperate, since efforts to eradicate CWD have failed! And, concrete scientific evidence of CWD harming deer populations has not appeared! Doc predicts this questionable paper will be cited time and again as evidence people can contract CWD, by one of the most poorly read and ill-informed groups of wildlife biologists! Here is the paper, so you can form your own opinion."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tadd, post: 3093567, member: 36004"] Here is an analysis that Dr. James Kroll (aka Dr. Deer) posted on his Facebook page regarding the article/study cited. "Here is what has to be one of the most unscientific papers we have ever read, and a group of the top wildlife and animal disease scientists agree with Doc! These folks take one case involving development of the human form of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies, called Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (sCJD) in two individuals as "proof" that CWD has infected humans! 85% of CJD cases are Sporadic (happening from some unknown cause), and 10-15% are genetic. The national infection rate in humans is less than 1.5 per million! The authors take this one "cluster" of two, each of which not only were diagnosed as sporadic but these individuals were genetically disposed to developing CJD! Then they refer to a study never published in Canada on monkies and others using mice models as "evidence" that it is "plausible" that, since these two men were in a population that eats venison, it "could" be documentation that humans can catch CWD! Next, science always involves an hypothesis and an experimental design that rigorously tests the hypothesis. In scientific, peer-reviewed papers, the authors normally disclose in detail their experimental design and methods, under a section subtitled "Methods and Materials." Here is what this short paper discloses: "Design/Methods: Not applicable." They conclude, "Based on non-human primate and mouse models, cross-species transmission of CJD is plausible. Due to the challenge of distinguishing sCJDMM1 from CWD without detailed prion protein characterization, it is not possible to definitively rule out CWD in these cases. Although causation remains unproven, this cluster emphasizes the need for further investigation into the potential risks of consuming CWD-infected deer and its implications for public health." There are about 13 million hunters in the U.S. using CDC data, that means that about 20 humans in that population will annually contract CJD. That two of these happened to know each other seems more a case of coincidence than cause-and-effect! The last sentence cuts to the chase:a call for more research! Folks, we told you the CWD camp was getting desperate, since efforts to eradicate CWD have failed! And, concrete scientific evidence of CWD harming deer populations has not appeared! Doc predicts this questionable paper will be cited time and again as evidence people can contract CWD, by one of the most poorly read and ill-informed groups of wildlife biologists! Here is the paper, so you can form your own opinion." [/QUOTE]
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