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<blockquote data-quote="fta0303" data-source="post: 3095181" data-attributes="member: 43503"><p>Very good stuff, really enjoyed listening to it. Phil is a likeable person. His stress on the bears ability to learn and adapt was especially interesting - you know they must, but neat to hear examples.</p><p></p><p>His 9mm experience illustrated one of many possible scenarios. The bear actually exposed his side to Phil, and was not hell bent for leather trying to kill anyone. If a bear is attacking you, not someone else, you probably won't see the side of the bear but the front, and he'll be coming fast and hard. A CNS shot is the only thing that will fold him up right now, which is what you need. In Phil's case, the bear was not charging him, so he had time and a bear that wasn't triggered into attack mode. </p><p></p><p>A CNS shot may not be possible. Don't let that stop you from shooting! There is an arc (belly down) from inside of shoulder to inside of shoulder that is a recommended target for a bear acoming at you. The head may get in the way, but I'd just try to shoot through it rather than waiting. You may get lucky: a CNS hit or maybe your shot turns the charge. And I think a 9mm hard cast will work regardless. There are instances of people shooting repeatedly into a grizzly's open mouth and killing it (both the instances I'm thinking of involved a DA 44 Mag.)</p><p></p><p>It came through very strongly from Phil that every bear and bear encounter is different. HIs descriptions of bears in action, trying to fish, surprised, or otherwise occupied showed that the bear isn't always focused on you. He used bear spray to move a non-charging bear away from him and it was successful. He also thought it was suicide to use it when stalking a wounded bear. The wounded bear is like the instinct-triggered attacking bear. A gun is best. </p><p></p><p>There have been bear attacks in which the chargee was disarmed by the bear. Keeping your handgun on a lanyard will afford you the chance to retrieve your gun if its batted away. Maybe you could still be in the fight. A small precaution that might yield valuable dividends.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for posting this extremely interesting interview. Worth its weight in gold.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fta0303, post: 3095181, member: 43503"] Very good stuff, really enjoyed listening to it. Phil is a likeable person. His stress on the bears ability to learn and adapt was especially interesting - you know they must, but neat to hear examples. His 9mm experience illustrated one of many possible scenarios. The bear actually exposed his side to Phil, and was not hell bent for leather trying to kill anyone. If a bear is attacking you, not someone else, you probably won't see the side of the bear but the front, and he'll be coming fast and hard. A CNS shot is the only thing that will fold him up right now, which is what you need. In Phil's case, the bear was not charging him, so he had time and a bear that wasn't triggered into attack mode. A CNS shot may not be possible. Don't let that stop you from shooting! There is an arc (belly down) from inside of shoulder to inside of shoulder that is a recommended target for a bear acoming at you. The head may get in the way, but I'd just try to shoot through it rather than waiting. You may get lucky: a CNS hit or maybe your shot turns the charge. And I think a 9mm hard cast will work regardless. There are instances of people shooting repeatedly into a grizzly's open mouth and killing it (both the instances I'm thinking of involved a DA 44 Mag.) It came through very strongly from Phil that every bear and bear encounter is different. HIs descriptions of bears in action, trying to fish, surprised, or otherwise occupied showed that the bear isn't always focused on you. He used bear spray to move a non-charging bear away from him and it was successful. He also thought it was suicide to use it when stalking a wounded bear. The wounded bear is like the instinct-triggered attacking bear. A gun is best. There have been bear attacks in which the chargee was disarmed by the bear. Keeping your handgun on a lanyard will afford you the chance to retrieve your gun if its batted away. Maybe you could still be in the fight. A small precaution that might yield valuable dividends. Thanks for posting this extremely interesting interview. Worth its weight in gold. [/QUOTE]
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