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<blockquote data-quote="Coyote Shadow Tracker" data-source="post: 3093429" data-attributes="member: 116439"><p>Bear Spray is a mix of "Preppers" mainly <strong><u>CAPSAICIN</u></strong></p><p></p><p>WOW</p><p>Bear spray is a specific aerosol deterrent designed to discourage aggressive or charging bears. Its active ingredients are highly irritant <strong>capsaicin</strong> and related <strong>capsaicinoids</strong> derived from red chili peppers. When faced with an aggressive bear, a user points the canister and sprays the contents for <strong>2–3 seconds</strong>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray" target="_blank">The maximum effective range varies by manufacturer but is generally effective when sprayed at a charging bear from a distance of <strong>1.5 to 3 meters</strong></a></p><p></p><p>I actually need to pull up the effect of "Capsaicinoids" on HUMANS-MAMALS. </p><p>It really does not have some effect for someone on drugs or high "Adrenaline" release in the brain. This happens on all mammals. The "Fear-Flight" takes effect. SO in a situation you either RUN or FIGHT and ADRENALINE kicks in. Basically, when that natural drug released in the brain nothing will stop the animal. </p><p>CN & CS Gas does have a dramatic effect on humans and animals, but you can't get it anymore.</p><p>I had the "CN" - "MACE", and "CS" "Tear Gas" Spray in Cans that were about 11" X 1.5" back in the 70s before they Banned It and changed to a <strong><u>CAPSAICIN </u></strong>type spray. It was said that a "Drug Induced" person would not be effected by "CN" MACE "CS" but Peppers burning the eyes and respiratory would stop the person. IT DOES NOT effect if a person or animal had ADRENALINE kicking in.</p><p></p><p>Pepper "<strong><u>CAPSAICIN "</u></strong>Spray is used by the Government is said to be much more effect than CN (MACE) CS (Tear Gas) Gases.</p><p>It all comes down to lability. Try to get some CN or CS in Aerosol or any other forms these days.</p><p></p><p>If I was going into an are with "Bears" actually Black Bears are mean. I know I hiked through the Appalachian for many Years training to stay in shape for mountain climbing. I carried my dad's Remington Rand 1911 .45 all the time. Sometimes slept in a small shelter with Chain-link Fence to lock us in at night on Mt LeConte.</p><p>Anyone that thinks that "Bear Spray" Pepper Spray will stop a charging or Peed off Bear will have that area left with Bear Scat to include the Humans and the can of Bear Spray.</p><p></p><p>Now not to say that you have to shoot all Bears that you see. A lot of Bears will RUN the other WAY!!!!</p><p>You can not go into bear country unless you know what you are doing and the bear's environment. I have had encounters with some small and BIG Black Bears here in North GA.</p><p>I would never use a Spray Can. The time it takes you to "SPRAY" a Bear it is already on you. </p><p>When Hunting I always carry my S&W Model 29 6". It is not a thing if I am in bear country or not. I know that I have a back up from my rifle whether it is a .22 or .325wsm.</p><p>Just be Safe when hunting and don't make mistakes just because you read something in a magazine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coyote Shadow Tracker, post: 3093429, member: 116439"] Bear Spray is a mix of "Preppers" mainly [B][U]CAPSAICIN[/U][/B] WOW Bear spray is a specific aerosol deterrent designed to discourage aggressive or charging bears. Its active ingredients are highly irritant [B]capsaicin[/B] and related [B]capsaicinoids[/B] derived from red chili peppers. When faced with an aggressive bear, a user points the canister and sprays the contents for [B]2–3 seconds[/B]. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray']The maximum effective range varies by manufacturer but is generally effective when sprayed at a charging bear from a distance of [B]1.5 to 3 meters[/B][/URL] I actually need to pull up the effect of "Capsaicinoids" on HUMANS-MAMALS. It really does not have some effect for someone on drugs or high "Adrenaline" release in the brain. This happens on all mammals. The "Fear-Flight" takes effect. SO in a situation you either RUN or FIGHT and ADRENALINE kicks in. Basically, when that natural drug released in the brain nothing will stop the animal. CN & CS Gas does have a dramatic effect on humans and animals, but you can't get it anymore. I had the "CN" - "MACE", and "CS" "Tear Gas" Spray in Cans that were about 11" X 1.5" back in the 70s before they Banned It and changed to a [B][U]CAPSAICIN [/U][/B]type spray. It was said that a "Drug Induced" person would not be effected by "CN" MACE "CS" but Peppers burning the eyes and respiratory would stop the person. IT DOES NOT effect if a person or animal had ADRENALINE kicking in. Pepper "[B][U]CAPSAICIN "[/U][/B]Spray is used by the Government is said to be much more effect than CN (MACE) CS (Tear Gas) Gases. It all comes down to lability. Try to get some CN or CS in Aerosol or any other forms these days. If I was going into an are with "Bears" actually Black Bears are mean. I know I hiked through the Appalachian for many Years training to stay in shape for mountain climbing. I carried my dad's Remington Rand 1911 .45 all the time. Sometimes slept in a small shelter with Chain-link Fence to lock us in at night on Mt LeConte. Anyone that thinks that "Bear Spray" Pepper Spray will stop a charging or Peed off Bear will have that area left with Bear Scat to include the Humans and the can of Bear Spray. Now not to say that you have to shoot all Bears that you see. A lot of Bears will RUN the other WAY!!!! You can not go into bear country unless you know what you are doing and the bear's environment. I have had encounters with some small and BIG Black Bears here in North GA. I would never use a Spray Can. The time it takes you to "SPRAY" a Bear it is already on you. When Hunting I always carry my S&W Model 29 6". It is not a thing if I am in bear country or not. I know that I have a back up from my rifle whether it is a .22 or .325wsm. Just be Safe when hunting and don't make mistakes just because you read something in a magazine. [/QUOTE]
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